Eminence, you lose the election? Zapatero's victory is the defeat of the English bishops?
"No. I congratulate Zapatero. We are ready to cooperate with him, provided it moves in the wake of the constitution and prosecute, as the Church, the common good. We are not against the government. Of course, conflicts with the powers that be are for the Church a historical condition. " In Italy you think the opposite, sometimes to the point to identify the Church with power. "Maybe in the past. Today the Church is not power, even though it may suffer the temptation, but in the end even Christ was tempted. And we will not cease to complain against some things that the government has done or will do. "
You spoke of a "secular" cultural revolution "of Zapatero. What do you mean? This revolution continue?
"Yes, there is an ongoing cultural revolution. Not only in Spain in the West. The complaint Benedict XVI, when fears of the dictatorship of relativism. Spain is the most advanced point of this revolution, with its more "gender", which go far beyond the traditional feminism, this sort of class struggle between man and woman. The English government has passed laws that deny the evidence of the nature and reason, which rely on the State the moral formation of young people who intend to establish a new culture on a false conception of freedom. "
A revolution that will now continue. What should the Church?
"What has made so far. The left talks about expanding the rights. But rights are not created in Parliament. The Church wants to work together to build a society of coexistence and peace. But what may be living together outside of marriage between a man and a woman? Which coexistence can occur if you want to eliminate God from society? Which coexistence can occur if you deny the right to life? We have nothing to reproach would be a betrayal if it fails to defend life from conception to natural death. We are not against democracy, but to he who denies the right to life is against democracy, and leads the company to disaster. We will defend the values \u200b\u200bin danger. And we will fight against the expansion of the law on abortion and against euthanasia. "
Abortion in Italy is back on the political agenda. In Spain, the law is more restrictive than in Italy. Zapatero fears that it intends to change it?
"We are left to individuals and groups who request it. But the Constitutional Court has recognized the rights of the unborn. We must first require the full application of the law: I am convinced that many of the hundred thousand abortions that take place in Spain each year would be avoided. I know the battle of Giuliano Ferrara for the moratorium, and adhere to it. For the future, I will fight for abolition abortion. What is the worst degradation of human history. "
Zapatero has been controversial with the bishops in the election campaign. What effect did it?
"I did not understand. And still, after his triumph, still do not understand it. His verbal attacks were based on manipulated words, such as those of Cardinal Rouco Varela, or reported by the media is incomplete, such as those of Cardinal García Gasco. However, I have nothing against the person. He himself said he did not want to repeat mistakes. I pray for him on the right track. "
This means you can start a new season in relations between the government and the Church?
"For our part does not exist, there can be no new season. In recent years the English Church has not made a single act of interference. Is Christianity the only religion that separates faith and politics: to God what is God's, to Caesar what is Caesar's. God is life, truth, man. "
The right did not follow the cultural battle of the Church. Now what should be done, according to her, the opposition to Zapatero in parliament and in society?
"I do not dare to give directions to a party. I say that the future of our society you play in a great battle culture, and that no Catholic, no matter where soldiers may desert. On the contrary, the lawmaker, the doctor, university professor, everyone must do his part. And the Church must evangelize Spain. We will not be a factor of division, but genuine progress, not progress in the fence that encloses the reason of science. "
The confrontation between church and state is a theme in the Italian election campaign. What is the difference between the English Church and ours?
"The Italian Church has more space in the media. When there was the Family Day, all the newspapers devoted several pages to the event in Piazza San Giovanni, and half a page to the secular Piazza Navona. In Spain, many newspapers have done the opposite. Hence the impression that the Italian Church to be more heard. But look at that in Spain there are people listening. When I meet at the station or airport, bystanders encourage me: "Don Antonio, keep it up!". When Cardinal Rouco urged Madrid to the streets, came in two million. So far there has been a lack of Catholics in public life, but things are changing, and the future will be different. "
The English national unity is in danger?
"The unity of Spain is a moral good that belongs everyone, and everyone should defend. For example, avoiding any negotiation, any recognition of political terrorism. "
What do you think of the law on memory? Is it not right to remove from the churches even tombstones, inscriptions, symbols of the Franco?
"It is a law unnecessary. The sufferings of the past can be repaired in other ways. And many have already been repaired. Making a law is to recall and rekindle the divisions between us. Instead, we need more reconciliation, more units. The real law is the Constitution for the memory of 1978, there is already there, the more it is useless or harmful. "
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